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German| Date: 2004-08-04 22:13:30 |
| From: David Williams |
Subject: RE: lighter, sweeter wines (was: |
| ello Larry, I see from your phone number that you're in Belgium so you're not very far from the Mosel area where there are lots of wine growers, some like Reinhard Löwenstein very good. His firm is Heymann Löwenstein and the web address is www.heymann-loewenstein.de But there are others as well. David Williams -----Original Message----- From: wineforum_owner@apris.de [mailto:wineforum_owner@apris.de]On Behalf Of Larry A. Verhasselt Sent: 04 August 2004 14:30 To: wineforum@wein-plus.com Subject: [wineforum] Re: lighter, sweeter wines (was: Hi do you have a more specific address for this " reinhold" ? kind regards Larry A.Verhasselt +32(0)475457447 On Aug 4, 2004, at 2:00 PM, Robert Walentiny wrote: > hi jim > > the winninger uhlen "spätlese" (last harvest) or "auslese" (selection) > made > by > reinhold löwenstein belongs to the most exciting and exotic riesling > wines > that i'd ever drunk. this wine comes from one of the most phenomenal > wineyards you can imagine. > this is not a wine-yard, but a wine-wall, only workable by > circus-acrobates > or alpinists. whow! the wines are liquid honey mixed with exotic > fruits.one > of the best wine criticists all over the world, michel bettane, from > the > "revue du vin de france" meant that the wines made by reinhold would > be the > best white wines he'd ever tasted. > the 2001 and 2002 are sold out. perhaps you can find some 2002 at > gcs@pt.lu > or in germany, k&u, nürnberg. good luck. > > robert > -----Message d'origine----- > De : wineforum_owner@apris.de [mailto:wineforum_owner@apris.de]De la > part de jim rose > Envoyé : mercredi 4 août 2004 12:22 > À : wineforum@wein-plus.com > Objet : [wineforum] Re: lighter, sweeter wines (was: > > > Hi David and others, > How I got myself into this 'forum' is puzzling, however I do find the > comments very interesting and informative. > Now that I have the chance to reach many wine enthusiasts, one of you > may be > able to help me out. > I recently tasted a white wine with the labelled title of; > MOSEL SAAR RUWER > WINNINGER UHLEN ZINSLEFE. > I wouldn't bet on the last name being absolutely correct, however it > is my > best interpretation of the very stylised writing on the bottle. > Reason I'm asking is that this wine was served at a small family > gathering, > none of whom are wine 'buffs' and none except myself would claim to > enjoy > wine specifically. > I quizzed the hostess who could not remember where it was purchased > from. > I found the wine a delight, slightly sweet and sparkling, almost > perfect for > my palate (which is not an experts palate by any means) and I would > dearly > like to purchase some for my self. > Can anyone offer help ? > Jim Rose. >> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Williams" <boscastle@t-online.de> > To: <wineforum@wein-plus.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 10:17 AM > Subject: [wineforum] RE: lighter, sweeter wines (was: > > >> Hi John, hi Sigi and hi others reading and writing on the subject of >> lighter, sweeter wines. >> >> This subject seems to have shifted to Mosel wines (as opposed to > Nyetimber, >> an English sparkling wine about which I gave info about the vineyard >> in > West >> Sussex, England). However to return to the Mosel. You're right >> Sigi, the >> Weingut with the name Haart is towards the end of the Goldtrvpfen site > and >> belongs to Reinhart Haart, an old winery founded some time ago and > currently >> run by Herr Theo Haart. (Don't confuse it with Johannes Haart, >> another old >> winery originating from the same family and also in Piesport). Anyone >> commenting on Reinhart Haart's quality wines is right - he's one of >> the > few >> growers who limits grape output which, in simple language, means it >> is far >> easier to produce a GOOD wine. (I understand he produces about 2,500 >> bottles per acre from Riesling whereas far too many growers would go >> for > up >> to double that amount, repeat double that amount. >> >> If you're interested in Reinhart Haart he has a website at >> www.haart.de >> (Can I stress I have NO contact with him). However the current owner, > Theo >> Haart is a bit naughty. His website implies he owns the Piesporter >> Goldtrvpfen vineyard (see Classified Sites on his website) - HE DOES >> NOT. >> Goldtrvpchen, one of several sites in Piesport which I have previously >> listed, is 82.3 hectacres in size. (An hectacre is about 2= acres). > Theo >> Haart works 13 hectacres. The rest of the site is work by other >> growers > and >> there are at least 5 to my knowlege which is not encyclopaedic. So >> let's >> hope that is clear. Now we come on to wine reviews, etc. >> >> From what I have explained you might now begin to realize that 99% of >> the >> wine reviews you read ARE TOTAL BUNKUM AND RUBBISH. There is >> absolutely no >> point at all for a wine reviewer to write in glowing terms about this >> or >> that's 1988 So-and-So Bla Bla Riesling (or whatever) UNLESS the >> reviewer > can >> also say something knowledgable about the vineyard - how big it is, >> how > many >> people work it and something about their output! And that's what they > can't >> do because they have no knowledge of the local language, can't >> converse >> (except in English) and can't read things like local wine organization >> literature. Sorry but that's the bitter, bitter truth! David Williams >> (Ludwigsburg, southern Germany). >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wineforum_owner@apris.de [mailto:wineforum_owner@apris.de]On >> Behalf Of Markgrdfler - Weinservice >> Sent: 02 August 2004 14:47 >> To: wineforum@wein-plus.de >> Subject: [wineforum] Re: lighter, sweeter wines (was: >> >> >> >>> The Goldtropfchen is a huge vineyard of high quality and has >> probably >>> dozens >>> of owners. >>> >>> Best, John Trombley >>> >> >> hi john, >> it's about 80 hectares...and probably the best vineyard in piesport. >> by the way...direct in front of it is the winery of reinhold haart. >> >> regards sigi >> >> This message was created using the Web-based forum : >> www.wein-plus.com/forum/ >> --- >> Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (www.grisoft.com). >> Version: 6.0.577 / Virus Database: 366 - Release Date: 03/02/2004 >> >> --- >> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (www.grisoft.com). >> Version: 6.0.577 / Virus Database: 366 - Release Date: 03/02/2004 >> >> > --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. 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