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German| Date: 2004-08-02 04:39:35 |
| From: Ken Rhodes |
Subject: RE: lighter, sweeter wines (was: |
| David, thank you so much. Ken -----Original Message----- From: wineforum_owner@apris.de [mailto:wineforum_owner@apris.de] On Behalf Of David Williams Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 8:50 AM To: wineforum@wein-plus.com Subject: [wineforum] RE: lighter, sweeter wines (was: sparkling I live in southern Germany and am building a website for internet German wine sales. (Sorry not to the USA because you still living with the echoes of prohibition and it seems US citizens are not allowed to import wine to private order direct to their home address like we Europeans can). So for your information, Ken - Piesport is a small (and charming) village on the river Mosel, a major tributary of the Rhein. It is well known for wine like other villlages and small towns, Trittenheim, Cochem, Traben-Trabach , Bernkastel, Wehlen and many many others. Each village is in an area (Grosslage) and the villages themselves have individual vineyards. IT IS THE VINEYARDS WHICH ARE IMPORTANT IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR SPECIFIC GERMAN WINES ! Don't bother about large firms (of which Sichel may be one, I've never heard of them) making large quantities of plonk and blended wines like Liebfraumilch, Blue Nun, Niersteiner Gutes Domtal, Mosel Blümchen etc. Names like this are illegal in Germany because they tell you nothing except that this is a low quality blended wine with sugar artificially added for export markets like the USA and Britain. The vineyards in Piesport (copied from the official register I have) are as follows: (Note all vineyards are prefixed by "Piesporter" (adjectival form of Piesport, just as you say 'She's a New Yorker') - Treppchen, Falkenberg, Goldtröpfchen, Günterslay, Domherr, Gärtchen, Kreuzwingert, Schubertslay, Grafenberg and Hofberger. Goldtröpfchen, the largest, is worked by several people and others are quite small. I hope this info is helpful. David Williams -----Original Message----- From: wineforum_owner@apris.de [mailto:wineforum_owner@apris.de]On Behalf Of Ken Rhodes Sent: 31 July 2004 20:23 To: wineforum@wein-plus.com Subject: [wineforum] lighter, sweeter wines (was: sparkling wine..what a Thanks for the post regarding the "lighter, sweeter" wines. I will certainly try the one’s you mentioned. I am still trying to find Sichel Piesporter Riesling. We had some at a restaurant in Florida and were told it was not available to the public. Bummer! The wine was excellent. Please advise if you have heard of the wine or know where it may be purchased. Tammie, try “Yellowtail” Cabernet Sauvignon. Inexpensive and quite tasty. Regards, Ken Rhodes -----Original Message----- From: wineforum_owner@apris.de [mailto:wineforum_owner@apris.de] On Behalf Of JEFFREY HELLMAN Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 5:35 AM To: wineforum@wein-plus.com Subject: [wineforum] Re: sparkling wine..what a great Sam's in Chicago has Nyetimber. You appear to like lighter sweeter wines. Stick with the Mosel, but also try Leitz Dragonstone. I think that you would like Vouvray as well. Try a Chidaine Montlouis if you can find one. They are usually less than $15. For reds, try some of George Dubouef's Beaujolais. I think that you will love them. Let me know. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tammie Naguit" <teardropchevelle@earthlink.net> To: <wineforum@wein-plus.com> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 11:00 AM Subject: [wineforum] RE: sparkling wine..what a great > Hello Mr. Englishman, > > I'M a Yank. And I don't know how I got all this email, from all these > wine'os but I do love wine. I'm a bit of a novice you see. I love > Mosel-Saar-Ruwer wine, also Blue Nun, Sangria, Leiframilch,Qualitatswein, > and know very little about wine in general only if it taste good. > > The American wines I like are Cello Lambrusco by: Gallo (Very inexpensive), > Any Wine by Robert Mondavi > epically his White Zinfandel, Berringer makes good wine. If you need for > me to > test some American brands for you I would be happy to. > > How would I get a bottle of this Nyetimber in the US? I'm looking for a > red wine > that taste really good not to dry, I guess, whatever that means. If dry is > like > Merlot, I hate it, what do you suggest I try next? What are some good > Italian, French and English wines that I can get in the United States, and > no > I'm not a rich woman. Can you explain what dry and the other terminology > of wine is? > One time I tasted a wine, that tasted like roasted almonds, I loved it. > > The other day I tried an Ecco Domani: 1997 Sangiovese Di Toscana, it tasted > okay > But a little too tart for my taste buds. We have these wild grapes that > grow in the woods > in the South East of the US. and they are called Muscidines, and they make > the most > wonderful wine you could imagine. > > Thank you for your time the Yank, Tammie Naguit > > > [Original Message] > > From: <boscastle@t-online.de (David Williams)> > > To: <wineforum@wein-plus.com> > > Date: 7/29/2004 6:40:35 AM > > Subject: [wineforum] RE: sparkling wine..what a great > > > > I happen to be a Englishman living in southern Germany and saw this > > correspondence about Nyetimber sparkling wine. In case anyone is > interested > > it is produced in the Orchard Hive and Wine vineyard in West Chiltingham > and > > I have found a phone number, 01798 (in the UK) 813989. West Chiltingham > is > > a small pretty village neart Storington and Washington. (Bet you didn't > > know the US Washington was named after a sleepy West Sussex village!) I > > don't personally know anything about Nyetimer wines but there is a revival > > of wine production in the UK, mostly in the south. East Anglia and Wales. > I > > think there are currently around 30+ vineyards. People think it's odd but > > wine has been made in England since Roman times and was a monastic > tradition > > in the middle ages. Wine was killed largely in the 18th cent. by spirits > > like gin (see Hogarth) and then by taxation in the late 19th and early > 20th > > cents. English vineyards have similar climate and growing conditions to > > Champagne and the Mosel-Saar-Ruwer area of Germany so there is no reason > why > > English wine should not be produced. Riesling and other white wine grapes > > are grown and I agree and can testify some of them are excellent. (I > don't > > quite know why I'm promoting English wine so enthusiastically since I'm > just > > starting a business to sell good German wine, the kind you which goes a > few > > steps beyond Liebfraumilch and which you don't find in your supermarket or > > Oddbins. But as a wine lover I admit that English wine is, in my > > experience, usually carefully made and worth drinking, albeit it on the > > expensive side). David Williams > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wineforum_owner@apris.de [mailto:wineforum_owner@apris.de]On > > Behalf Of Leon Stolarski > > Sent: 28 July 2004 20:29 > > To: wineforum@wein-plus.com > > Subject: [wineforum] Re: sparkling wine..what a great surprise > > > > > > Hello Sigi (and all on the wineforum list) > > > > I do not have personal experience of Nyetimber sparkling wines, but I do > > know that the Queen serves it to visiting heads of state from all around > > the > > world, at state banquets. Enough said, I suppose! > > > > By the way, I don't know how I came to be a "subscriber" to this list, but > > it is most interesting. By the way, if anyone reading this in the U.K is a > > fan of wines from the Languedoc and Rhone, you may like to visit our site > > at > > www.lsfinewines.co.uk and take a look. Cheap shot, I know, but you > > could always join our mailing list, too - we are a relatively new > business, > > and need as many visitors as we can get - and our wine list will soon > grow, > > when we add even more great wines! > > > > Regards > > Leon Stolarski > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Markgräfler - Weinservice" <info@markgraefler-weinservice.de> > > To: <wineforum@wein-plus.de> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 10:35 AM > > Subject: [wineforum] sparkling wine..what a great surprise > > > > > > > > > > hello, > > > last sunday we tasted an sparkling wine...bevor go further i have to > > > say we're living in england since 6 weeks & i don't know the market > > > very well. the wine costs 19 £ which is a good price for - example - > > > a champagne. all the good known labels starts up from ca. 22 > > > £.....thats what i found so far. now this one was a vintage sparkling > > > wine from 1996....chardonnay dominated plus pinot meunier & pinot > > > noir. the wine was really good...like a typicall chardonnay dominated > > > sparkling wine....racy....good length....complexy structure...yellow > > > fruits apard with green granny smith apples.....very fine toasty > > > notes....and have the potential for another 2-3 years & if you like > > > matured sparkling wines also for 4-5 years. > > > > > > it was an english sparkling wine...i was you can say shocked about > > > the absolute great quality.....there is no question to compare it > > > with excellent sparkling wines from champagne...franciacorta...ect. > > > > > > 1996 nyetimber,brut classic blend, traditional method, from west > > > sussex. do anyone knows this wine ? > > > > > > regards sigi > > > > > > This message was created using the Web-based forum : > > > www.wein-plus.com/forum/ > > --- > > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.577 / Virus Database: 366 - Release Date: 03/02/2004 > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.577 / Virus Database: 366 - Release Date: 03/02/2004 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. 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