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Date: 2004-08-01 14:45:51
From: JEFFREY HELLMAN

Subject: Re: lighter, sweeter wines (was: sparkling

Ken, I have not had the Sichel, but if you like Piesporter wines, try
Reinhold Haart Piesporter Goldtropchen. Haart is the best producer in that
village by far. For inexpensive German wine, I also recommend Strub in
addition to Leitz. Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Rhodes" <kentana1@comcast.net>
To: <wineforum@wein-plus.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 2:22 PM
Subject: [wineforum] lighter, sweeter wines (was: sparkling wine..what a


> Thanks for the post regarding the "lighter, sweeter" wines. I will
> certainly try the one's you mentioned.
> I am still trying to find Sichel Piesporter Riesling. We had some at a
> restaurant in Florida and were told it was not available to the public.
> Bummer! The wine was excellent.
> Please advise if you have heard of the wine or know where it may be
> purchased.
>
> Tammie, try "Yellowtail" Cabernet Sauvignon. Inexpensive and quite
> tasty.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ken Rhodes
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wineforum_owner@apris.de [mailto:wineforum_owner@apris.de] On
> Behalf Of JEFFREY HELLMAN
> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 5:35 AM
> To: wineforum@wein-plus.com
> Subject: [wineforum] Re: sparkling wine..what a great
>
> Sam's in Chicago has Nyetimber. You appear to like lighter sweeter
> wines.
> Stick with the Mosel, but also try Leitz Dragonstone. I think that you
> would like Vouvray as well. Try a Chidaine Montlouis if you can find
> one.
> They are usually less than $15. For reds, try some of George Dubouef's
> Beaujolais. I think that you will love them. Let me know. Jeff
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tammie Naguit" <teardropchevelle@earthlink.net>
> To: <wineforum@wein-plus.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 11:00 AM
> Subject: [wineforum] RE: sparkling wine..what a great
>
>
> > Hello Mr. Englishman,
> >
> > I'M a Yank. And I don't know how I got all this email, from all
> these
> > wine'os but I do love wine. I'm a bit of a novice you see. I love
> > Mosel-Saar-Ruwer wine, also Blue Nun, Sangria,
> Leiframilch,Qualitatswein,
> > and know very little about wine in general only if it taste good.
> >
> > The American wines I like are Cello Lambrusco by: Gallo (Very
> inexpensive),
> > Any Wine by Robert Mondavi
> > epically his White Zinfandel, Berringer makes good wine. If you need
> for
> > me to
> > test some American brands for you I would be happy to.
> >
> > How would I get a bottle of this Nyetimber in the US? I'm looking for
> a
> > red wine
> > that taste really good not to dry, I guess, whatever that means. If
> dry
> is
> > like
> > Merlot, I hate it, what do you suggest I try next? What are some
> good
> > Italian, French and English wines that I can get in the United States,
> and
> > no
> > I'm not a rich woman. Can you explain what dry and the other
> terminology
> > of wine is?
> > One time I tasted a wine, that tasted like roasted almonds, I loved
> it.
> >
> > The other day I tried an Ecco Domani: 1997 Sangiovese Di Toscana, it
> tasted
> > okay
> > But a little too tart for my taste buds. We have these wild grapes
> that
> > grow in the woods
> > in the South East of the US. and they are called Muscidines, and they
> make
> > the most
> > wonderful wine you could imagine.
> >
> > Thank you for your time the Yank, Tammie Naguit
> >
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: <boscastle@t-online.de (David Williams)>
> > > To: <wineforum@wein-plus.com>
> > > Date: 7/29/2004 6:40:35 AM
> > > Subject: [wineforum] RE: sparkling wine..what a great
> > >
> > > I happen to be a Englishman living in southern Germany and saw this
> > > correspondence about Nyetimber sparkling wine. In case anyone is
> > interested
> > > it is produced in the Orchard Hive and Wine vineyard in West
> Chiltingham
> > and
> > > I have found a phone number, 01798 (in the UK) 813989. West
> Chiltingham
> > is
> > > a small pretty village neart Storington and Washington. (Bet you
> didn't
> > > know the US Washington was named after a sleepy West Sussex
> village!) I
> > > don't personally know anything about Nyetimer wines but there is a
> revival
> > > of wine production in the UK, mostly in the south. East Anglia and
> Wales.
> > I
> > > think there are currently around 30+ vineyards. People think it's
> odd
> but
> > > wine has been made in England since Roman times and was a monastic
> > tradition
> > > in the middle ages. Wine was killed largely in the 18th cent. by
> spirits
> > > like gin (see Hogarth) and then by taxation in the late 19th and
> early
> > 20th
> > > cents. English vineyards have similar climate and growing
> conditions to
> > > Champagne and the Mosel-Saar-Ruwer area of Germany so there is no
> reason
> > why
> > > English wine should not be produced. Riesling and other white wine
> grapes
> > > are grown and I agree and can testify some of them are excellent.
> (I
> > don't
> > > quite know why I'm promoting English wine so enthusiastically since
> I'm
> > just
> > > starting a business to sell good German wine, the kind you which
> goes a
> > few
> > > steps beyond Liebfraumilch and which you don't find in your
> supermarket
> or
> > > Oddbins. But as a wine lover I admit that English wine is, in my
> > > experience, usually carefully made and worth drinking, albeit it on
> the
> > > expensive side). David Williams
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: wineforum_owner@apris.de [mailto:wineforum_owner@apris.de]On
> > > Behalf Of Leon Stolarski
> > > Sent: 28 July 2004 20:29
> > > To: wineforum@wein-plus.com
> > > Subject: [wineforum] Re: sparkling wine..what a great surprise
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Sigi (and all on the wineforum list)
> > >
> > > I do not have personal experience of Nyetimber sparkling wines, but
> I do
> > > know that the Queen serves it to visiting heads of state from all
> around
> > > the
> > > world, at state banquets. Enough said, I suppose!
> > >
> > > By the way, I don't know how I came to be a "subscriber" to this
> list,
> but
> > > it is most interesting. By the way, if anyone reading this in the
> U.K is
> a
> > > fan of wines from the Languedoc and Rhone, you may like to visit our
> site
> > > at
> > > www.lsfinewines.co.uk and take a look. Cheap shot, I know,
> but
> you
> > > could always join our mailing list, too - we are a relatively new
> > business,
> > > and need as many visitors as we can get - and our wine list will
> soon
> > grow,
> > > when we add even more great wines!
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Leon Stolarski
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Markgräfler - Weinservice" <info@markgraefler-weinservice.de>
> > > To: <wineforum@wein-plus.de>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 10:35 AM
> > > Subject: [wineforum] sparkling wine..what a great surprise
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > hello,
> > > > last sunday we tasted an sparkling wine...bevor go further i have
> to
> > > > say we're living in england since 6 weeks & i don't know the
> market
> > > > very well. the wine costs 19 £ which is a good price for - example
> -
> > > > a champagne. all the good known labels starts up from ca. 22
> > > > £.....thats what i found so far. now this one was a vintage
> sparkling
> > > > wine from 1996....chardonnay dominated plus pinot meunier & pinot
> > > > noir. the wine was really good...like a typicall chardonnay
> dominated
> > > > sparkling wine....racy....good length....complexy
> structure...yellow
> > > > fruits apard with green granny smith apples.....very fine toasty
> > > > notes....and have the potential for another 2-3 years & if you
> like
> > > > matured sparkling wines also for 4-5 years.
> > > >
> > > > it was an english sparkling wine...i was you can say shocked about
> > > > the absolute great quality.....there is no question to compare it
> > > > with excellent sparkling wines from
> champagne...franciacorta...ect.
> > > >
> > > > 1996 nyetimber,brut classic blend, traditional method, from west
> > > > sussex. do anyone knows this wine ?
> > > >
> > > > regards sigi
> > > >
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