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Date: 2004-06-23 20:59:25
From: David Williams

Subject: RE: New feature at Wein-Plus.com

You are right in saying it is complicated to buy European wines in the USA -
in fact as far as I know it is only possible for consumers to buy through a
licenced importer who has a licence to sell alcohol. However there is
another major problem - (illustrated by your example "Where can I buy wines
from winery X in state Y") - which is that 26 states PROHIBIT INTER-STATE
SALES. For example it is legal for residents of New England to buy from
other states but not residents in New York. The US Supreme Court will now
heard 3 cases which, it is claimed, involve constitutional law since
although the 21st Amendment ended Prohibition in 1933 it gave individual
states the right to regulate alcohol. It seems these cases will rest on the
power of Congress to also regulate commerce between the states. Alcohol
wholesalers want the law to stay as it is; on the other hand winemakers want
to see a change so that they can sell their products over the internet.

The 25 states which do allow inter-state trading would still have individual
regulations concerning tax. That is still likely to make it difficult for
any European winery, Weingärtnergenossenschaft etc. to supply wine directly
to customers in the US - it may just become difficult instead of impossible!
I mention that because, as you know, tax like MWSt is deducted for US
customers but taxes (Sales taxes) are not uniform from one state to another.
I am not quite sure (since I am British and not American) how importers of
European wine in the US deal with this problem. I can only tell you that my
local Weingärtnergenossenschaft won't send anything to America as they had 3
different orders returned by US (State) Customs for which they had to pay
return transport costs.

I am trying to find out more from the Institue for Justice which is, I
understand, bringing the legal action. It is expected the case will be
heard at the end of the year and a ruling handed down in about June 2005.
In the meantime it would be helpful if any US readers can add to this
information.

David Williams



-----Original Message-----
From: wineforum_owner@apris.de [mailto:wineforum_owner@apris.de]On
Behalf Of Martin H. Geiger
Sent: 22 June 2004 16:36
To: wineforum@wein-plus.com
Subject: [wineforum] New feature at Wein-Plus.com


Hi,

animated by the discussion in this mailing list, Utz decided to implement a
new feature to www.wein-plus.com.

We learned, that it seems to be rather complicated to buy european wines in
the USA. As we understood, are the reasons for this to see on the one side
in the legal environment, and on the other side in the seperation to
importes and retailers.

Many questions in the last weeks focused something like "Where can I buy
wines form winery x in state y".

In our german-language website www.wein-plus.de we have a very powerfull
feature named "Weinlotse".
This is a sorted list of wine-realted websites. Wineries, importes and
retailers are listed here.
We now offer the same service at our english-languaged plattform.
Of course, actually there is very small content. So we ask you for two
things:
- If you are an importer or a retailer of european wines, please enter your
data to this tool.
- If you know such companies, please let us know.

Of course we will ask the german winemakers for their business partners in
the USA.

It would be great to implement a mostly complete overview to the wine
bargain in the USA.

Of course, we are at your disposal for further information.

Best regards

Martin H. Geiger

www.wein-plus.de
www.wein-plus.com
Martin H. Geiger
- Werbung und Kooperationen -
Heusteg 47
91056 Erlangen
Tel +49 9131 75 50 14
Fax +49 9131 75 50 50
Mail: geiger@wein-plus.de
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