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German| Date: 2005-11-17 17:18:37 |
| From: Raymond |
Subject: Re: GERMAN CLASSIFICATION - PUZZLE!! |
| Thanks for the information Jochen. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jochen Mueller" <jochen.mueller@clever-mail.net> To: <wineforum@wein-plus.com> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:28 PM Subject: [wineforum] Re: GERMAN CLASSIFICATION - PUZZLE!! > Ray, > > > 1) Can I say, though "Spatlese" is not mentioned on the label of a > > Grosses > > Gewaechs; it comes under QmP therefore it is not chaptalized? > > A "Großes Gewächs" is NOT a QmP; the expression is not covered by German > wine law (but is something as a brand of a growers' business association, > the VdP); as far as I know these wines can indeed be chaptalized. > > > 2) It is true that Mosel Riesling classified under "Erste Lage" (which > > is > > also Grand Cru like Grosses Gewaechs) can be mildly sweet and not > > necessarily dry? > > Yes, in Mosel-Saar-Ruwer "Großes Gewächs" is replaced by "Große Lage" > (which can be sweet). [and in the Rheingau by "Erstes Gewächs" that is > covered by German law and includes also non-VdP growers] > > > 3) Considering the global demand for dry or very dry wines, do you guys > > foresee that Germany will eventually stop producing those lovingly > > fruity > > Riesling? > > No. > > > 4) Will the "Classic" & "Selection" classification be kept or it will > > be > > finally be replaced the Grand Cru system? > > Not in the near future. And there will be also some future for the "good > old" Prädikat system, at least for sweet wines. > > > 5) How does a wine under "Selection" compare to one under "Grosses > > Gewaechs" > > in terms of quality? > > VdP growers have "Großes Gewächs", non-VdP growers "Selection" [if they > like and can]. [Diel, the president of VdP Nahe, was an exception.] There > are some more restrictions for making a "Großes Gewächs" compared with > "Selection". > All these parallel classifications are somewhat confusing. > > Best wishes, > Jochen Müller > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Raymond" <raymd@singnet.com.sg> > To: <wineforum@wein-plus.com> > Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 20:33:07 +0800 > Subject: [wineforum] Re: GERMAN CLASSIFICATION - PUZZLE!! > > > Sorry for asking so many questions. I want to know more about the wine > > I > > like so much to drink > > > > 1) Can I say, though "Spatlese" is not mentioned on the label of a > > Grosses > > Gewaechs; it comes under QmP therefore it is not chaptalized? > > 2) It is true that Mosel Riesling classified under "Erste Lage" (which > > is > > also Grand Cru like Grosses Gewaechs) can be mildly sweet and not > > necessarily dry? > > 3) Considering the global demand for dry or very dry wines, do you guys > > foresee that Germany will eventually stop producing those lovingly > > fruity > > Riesling? > > 4) Will the "Classic" & "Selection" classification be kept or it will > > be > > finally be replaced the Grand Cru system? > > 5) How does a wine under "Selection" compare to one under "Grosses > > Gewaechs" > > in terms of quality? > > > > Regards > > Ray > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Peter.Gebler@t-online.de> > > To: <wineforum@wein-plus.com> > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 2:42 PM > > Subject: [wineforum] Re: GERMAN CLASSIFICATION - PUZZLE!! > > > > > > > Raymond, > > > > > > 1) no chaptalising permitted on either wine - once you are at QmP > > level, > > which includes regular Spätlese, chaptalising is prohibited; > > > 2) given that it is the same producer (and presumably vintage), > > expect the > > Großes Gewächs to be better, i.e. more concentrated. > > > > > > Enjoy the wines, and let the forum know your tasting notes. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Peter > > > > > > "Raymond" <raymd@singnet.com.sg> schrieb: > > > > Thanks Peter > > > > I suppose it's not wrong to think that a Wehlener Sonnenuhr > > Riesling > > > > Spätlese Trocken can be as good as a Riesling Großes Gewächs from > > the > > same > > > > vineyard. > > > > Are wines under Großes Gewächs allowed to be chapterlized? > > > > Ray > > > > > > More infos: www.wein-plus.com Unsubscribe: www.wein-plus.com/abmelden.htm |
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