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German| Date: 2005-11-17 15:28:53 |
| From: Jochen Mueller |
Subject: Re: GERMAN CLASSIFICATION - PUZZLE!! |
| Ray, > 1) Can I say, though "Spatlese" is not mentioned on the label of a > Grosses > Gewaechs; it comes under QmP therefore it is not chaptalized? A "Großes Gewächs" is NOT a QmP; the expression is not covered by German wine law (but is something as a brand of a growers' business association, the VdP); as far as I know these wines can indeed be chaptalized. > 2) It is true that Mosel Riesling classified under "Erste Lage" (which > is > also Grand Cru like Grosses Gewaechs) can be mildly sweet and not > necessarily dry? Yes, in Mosel-Saar-Ruwer "Großes Gewächs" is replaced by "Große Lage" (which can be sweet). [and in the Rheingau by "Erstes Gewächs" that is covered by German law and includes also non-VdP growers] > 3) Considering the global demand for dry or very dry wines, do you guys > foresee that Germany will eventually stop producing those lovingly > fruity > Riesling? No. > 4) Will the "Classic" & "Selection" classification be kept or it will > be > finally be replaced the Grand Cru system? Not in the near future. And there will be also some future for the "good old" Prädikat system, at least for sweet wines. > 5) How does a wine under "Selection" compare to one under "Grosses > Gewaechs" > in terms of quality? VdP growers have "Großes Gewächs", non-VdP growers "Selection" [if they like and can]. [Diel, the president of VdP Nahe, was an exception.] There are some more restrictions for making a "Großes Gewächs" compared with "Selection". All these parallel classifications are somewhat confusing. Best wishes, Jochen Müller -----Original Message----- From: "Raymond" <raymd@singnet.com.sg> To: <wineforum@wein-plus.com> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 20:33:07 +0800 Subject: [wineforum] Re: GERMAN CLASSIFICATION - PUZZLE!! > Sorry for asking so many questions. I want to know more about the wine > I > like so much to drink > > 1) Can I say, though "Spatlese" is not mentioned on the label of a > Grosses > Gewaechs; it comes under QmP therefore it is not chaptalized? > 2) It is true that Mosel Riesling classified under "Erste Lage" (which > is > also Grand Cru like Grosses Gewaechs) can be mildly sweet and not > necessarily dry? > 3) Considering the global demand for dry or very dry wines, do you guys > foresee that Germany will eventually stop producing those lovingly > fruity > Riesling? > 4) Will the "Classic" & "Selection" classification be kept or it will > be > finally be replaced the Grand Cru system? > 5) How does a wine under "Selection" compare to one under "Grosses > Gewaechs" > in terms of quality? > > Regards > Ray > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Peter.Gebler@t-online.de> > To: <wineforum@wein-plus.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 2:42 PM > Subject: [wineforum] Re: GERMAN CLASSIFICATION - PUZZLE!! > > > > Raymond, > > > > 1) no chaptalising permitted on either wine - once you are at QmP > level, > which includes regular Spätlese, chaptalising is prohibited; > > 2) given that it is the same producer (and presumably vintage), > expect the > Großes Gewächs to be better, i.e. more concentrated. > > > > Enjoy the wines, and let the forum know your tasting notes. > > > > Cheers, > > Peter > > > > "Raymond" <raymd@singnet.com.sg> schrieb: > > > Thanks Peter > > > I suppose it's not wrong to think that a Wehlener Sonnenuhr > Riesling > > > Spätlese Trocken can be as good as a Riesling Großes Gewächs from > the > same > > > vineyard. > > > Are wines under Großes Gewächs allowed to be chapterlized? > > > Ray > > > More infos: www.wein-plus.com Unsubscribe: www.wein-plus.com/abmelden.htm |
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