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Date: 2005-12-17 13:33:07
From: Raymond

Subject: Re: GERMAN CLASSIFICATION - PUZZLE!!

Sorry for asking so many questions. I want to know more about the wine I
like so much to drink

1) Can I say, though "Spatlese" is not mentioned on the label of a Grosses
Gewaechs; it comes under QmP therefore it is not chaptalized?
2) It is true that Mosel Riesling classified under "Erste Lage" (which is
also Grand Cru like Grosses Gewaechs) can be mildly sweet and not
necessarily dry?
3) Considering the global demand for dry or very dry wines, do you guys
foresee that Germany will eventually stop producing those lovingly fruity
Riesling?
4) Will the "Classic" & "Selection" classification be kept or it will be
finally be replaced the Grand Cru system?
5) How does a wine under "Selection" compare to one under "Grosses Gewaechs"
in terms of quality?

Regards
Ray

----- Original Message -----
From: <Peter.Gebler@t-online.de>
To: <wineforum@wein-plus.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 2:42 PM
Subject: [wineforum] Re: GERMAN CLASSIFICATION - PUZZLE!!


> Raymond,
>
> 1) no chaptalising permitted on either wine - once you are at QmP level,
which includes regular Spätlese, chaptalising is prohibited;
> 2) given that it is the same producer (and presumably vintage), expect the
Großes Gewächs to be better, i.e. more concentrated.
>
> Enjoy the wines, and let the forum know your tasting notes.
>
> Cheers,
> Peter
>
> "Raymond" <raymd@singnet.com.sg> schrieb:
> > Thanks Peter
> > I suppose it's not wrong to think that a Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling
> > Spätlese Trocken can be as good as a Riesling Großes Gewächs from the
same
> > vineyard.
> > Are wines under Großes Gewächs allowed to be chapterlized?
> > Ray
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <Peter.Gebler@t-online.de>
> > To: <wineforum@wein-plus.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 5:40 AM
> > Subject: [wineforum] Re: GERMAN CLASSIFICATION - PUZZLE!!
> >
> >
> > > Dear raymond,
> > >
> > > cutting the 10 pages of possible information down to a minimum: the
Gro ße
> > s Gewächs must come from a specially classified first growth vineyard,
in
> > this case most probably in the Rheingau. The must weight would likely be
> > the same as for the Spätlese trocken, and the wine would also be in a
dry
> > style, but the Spätlese trocken could be from any registered vineyard,
most
> > probably not from a first growth vineyard. In the Rheingau, one third
of
> > all vineyard area is classified Großes Gewächs.
> > >
> > > There are some more rules, but this should help. There is no guarantee
> > whatsoever that the Großes Gewächs will be better than the Spätle se
> > trocken, the only near certainty is that it will be more expensive than
the
> > Spätlese - there are virtually no Große Gewächse below about 23 Euros
per
> > bottle.
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > > Peter
> > > "Raymond" <raymd@singnet.com.sg> schrieb:
> > > >
> > > > Love the wine but dislike that fickle clasification. What's the
> > > > difference between a Riesling Großes Gewächs and a Riesling
Spatlese
> > > > trocken?
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > This message was created using the Web-based forum :
> > > > www.wein-plus.com/forum/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

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