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Date: 2005-08-01 23:41:46
From: Gerhard Präsent

Subject: Re: Why Is German Wine Low In Alcohol?

>Dr. Loosen, J.J. Prum, Gunderloch, Fritz Haag,
>Ergon Muller etc. Are you telling me that they are bad wines because
>there is some residual sugar retained.

Just by accident I attended a tasting today with a dozen German Rieslings,
all but one with considerable RS,
incl. Gunderloch, Fritz Haag, Egon Muller + Dönnhoff, Van Volxem,
Heymann-Löwenstein et al.

>What makes
>German Riesling unique is the wine range of styles the wine is made
>into.

Agreed.

>Many people drink dry white wine out of fashion or popularity
>not because they find it tasty.

But not me. I usually do not like wines with too much sweet aftertaste
(excluding the very sweet desert wines).

In this tasting there were several wines that I would rate quite high in
quality, but I would never buy for drinking - I simply don´t like the
sour-sweet taste, or WORSE: the only-sweet taste without much acidity and
low alc.

Perhaps not the best wine, but the one that I enjoyed most was Dönnhoffs dry
Riesling Kabinett 2001.

No offence against anyone, just ma personal preference.

Gerhard

(BTW: Austrian)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Raymond" <raymd@singnet.com.sg>
To: <wineforum@wein-plus.de>
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 6:14 PM
Subject: [wineforum] Re: Why Is German Wine Low In Alcohol?


>
> >
> >>I am somewhat puzzled by this question. If we can agree upon that
> >a
> >low alcohol content means below 10%vol and a high content between
> >11
> >and 14 (+)% vol, it is obvious that a wine with 60g/L of residual
> >sugar in general contains only 7,5 t0 8,5 %. A dry wine (< 9g/L of
> >sugar), in which nearly all the sugar is converted into alcohol -
> >as
> >produced in general before 1945 and partly after 1995- easily
> >reaches
> >the international standard of >12%.
> >Before 1939, the sweet German wine was specially produced for
> >export
> >because the consumer insisted upon the (famous?) balance between
> >high
> >acidity and high sweetness. In these days the dryer wine -
> >especialy
> >the half dry version (<18g/l of sugar)- is more and more accepted.
> >The very good years of the last decade causing a gradual increase
> >of
> >the ratio of tartaric over malic acid in the must allows this
> >change
> >in style. Here in Germany a sweet wine is regarded as a bad wine
> >now
> >in the public which underlines the basic change of our wine taste.
> >Cheers,
> >Werner Müller.
> >>Ray
> >>
> >>This message was created using the Web-based forum :
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> >>
> >>
> >
> >This message was created using the Web-based forum :
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> >
> >
> >
> Thanks for your reply Werner.
> I've been drinking the so call Liebich or fruity riesling from some
> of the top names like Dr. Loosen, J.J. Prum, Gunderloch, Fritz Haag,
> Ergon Muller etc. Are you telling me that they are bad wines because
> there is some residual sugar retained. If Germany would produce
> entirely dry wines, it would be the greatest mistake. What makes
> German Riesling unique is the wine range of styles the wine is made
> into. Many people drink dry white wine out of fashion or popularity
> not because they find it tasty. For me a good wine is not about the
> style it is made into but rather balance. I prefer German Riesling to
> that of Alsace because the latter has too much acidity with little or
> no sweetness to counter it.
> Ray
>
> This message was created using the Web-based forum :
> www.wein-plus.com/forum/
>
>

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