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Date: 2005-04-05 10:25:07
From: Gerhard Präsent

Subject: Re: Also world class in Austria

> Wachau has somewhat warmer and dryer climate
> than even this German dry region ....
> I think it's more a matter of tradition.
> Wachau does well with its dry whites and
> there might be no market for potential fruity whites.
> So my speculation should be seen with a :-)
>

Jochen,

it´s not that there can´t be produced a sweet Auslese in the Wachau (there
are some in the neighbouring regions) - I just mean it will not be as good
as (to my taste) the same wine fermented (almost dry) - of course provided
the quality of wine-making is high.
The Wachau is warmer climatically than most German regions - and it usually
lacks the "picant" acidity that deliver the balance against sweetness German
Ausleses are famous for.
Wines from the Wachau with perceptible residual sugar are - IMHO - to broad,
to mild, to harmless, also to heavy lacking struvture and livelyness.

Of course all very general - and I exclude the highly sweet dessert wines
like TBA !

Gerhard


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jochen Mueller" <jochen.mueller@clever-mail.net>
To: <wineforum@wein-plus.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 3:51 PM
Subject: [wineforum] Re: Also world class in Austria


> Gerhard,
>
> > a SWEET Riesling Spätlese from Wachau with low Alc will most probably
> > not be
> > good - and you know that very well.
>
> this looks like understatement. Germany produces great sweet Riesling
> Spätlese wines from regions with different climates, besides the famous
> middle Mosel region (with a mild, subatlantic/Central European climate and
> vegetation) also from regions with a warmer and dryer, continental climate
> and vegetation more similar to that of the Wachau (especially
> Rheinhessen/lower Nahe/Unterhaardt of the Pfalz which originally were
> Stipa (=Steinfeder, Federgras) country), including steep stony sites
> (e.g., the "Red Slope" between Nackenheim and Nierstein, the Trollbachtal
> in the lower Nahe region). Wachau has somewhat warmer and dryer climate
> than even this German dry region but there were great sweet Spätlesen and
> Auslesen at least from the "Red Slope" even in 2003 (and without
> irrigation systems) like those of Georg Albrecht Schneider from Nierstein
> (stunningly with only about 5g/l acid); there might be others, e.g.,
> Gunderloch or Strub which I did not try. I thus would not believe that the
> sites Wachau or Kamptal would not have the potential for great fruity
> style Riesling wines, but please note that I stress the words "potential"
> and "Riesling". I think it's more a matter of tradition.
> Wachau does well with its dry whites and
> there might be no market for potential fruity whites.
> So my speculation should be seen with a :-)
>
> Best,
> Jochen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gerhard Präsent <praesent@telering.at>
> To: <wineforum@wein-plus.com>
> Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 10:51:53 +0200
> Subject: [wineforum] Re: Also world class in Austria (formerly:
>
> > > I would like to drink a good
> > > sweet Riesling Spätlese with 10% alc or less from a Wachau or Kamptal
> > top
> > > site:-)
> > > Best,
> > > Jochen
> >
> > Jochen,
> > a SWEET Riesling Spätlese from Wachau with low Alc will most probably
> > not be
> > good - and you know that very well.
> > I very much hope that the best winemakers won´t never produce something
> > */&gr %wrx§* from their best sites.
> > ;-)
> >
> > But there are some TBAs (dry selected berries) produced now and then
> > that
> > can be stunning. I just remember a Riesling TBA 2000 from Knoll - GREAT
> > wine.
> >
> > Gerhard
> >
>
>

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