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German| Date: 2005-04-04 14:28:12 |
| From: Raymond |
Subject: Re: Hi, Fellow wine lovers. I've a... |
| Hi David What should be the right wine then? ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Williams" <boscastle@T-Online.de> To: <wineforum@wein-plus.com> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 4:37 PM Subject: [wineforum] RE: Hi, Fellow wine lovers. I've a... > I can believe that! Personally I wouldn't drink any German wine with a > spicy or hot flavour - in my view you loose all the delicacy but you > obviously don't agree. Chacun a son gout! > > -----Original Message----- > From: wineforum_owner@apris.de [mailto:wineforum_owner@apris.de]On > Behalf Of Raymond > Sent: Samstag, 2. April 2005 09:47 > To: wineforum@wein-plus.com > Subject: [wineforum] Re: Hi, Fellow wine lovers. I've a... > > > Hi David > Thanks for the elaborate answer. Personal experience: Riesling does go very > well with spicy Asian food due to it's freshness, low alc., and reasonable > r.s. retention balanced with acidity. What does NOT go well with hot Asian > cuisines is a white wine that is bone-dry, heavily wooded and full-bodied. > It just increases the heat in your mouth. > Ray > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "boscastle@t-online.de" <boscastle@T-Online.de> > To: <wineforum@wein-plus.de> > Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 3:41 AM > Subject: [wineforum] Hi, Fellow wine lovers. I've a... > > > > > > Well Raymond, you seem to have lots of opinions to consider! For what > > it's worth I agree the lieblich style will never disappear > > > > Perhaps you should remember one or two basic facts about the Riesling > > grape which others haven't touched on yet. First of all you have to > > remember that this is probably the most difficult country as far as > > latitude and weather is concerned to produce wine. (Hence although > > 10% of wine production is red (and most of it here in Baden and > > Württemberg) little of it is very good which is why there is hardly > > any exported). The Riesling is a hardy vine well suited to this > > climate - in fact when grown elsewhere it is either another grape > > (like the Californian so-called Riesling or Italian Riesling which is > > Wechselriesling) or it doesn't produce wines with the delicacy and > > subtleness of taste like a good German Riesling. Riesling can be > > crisp and dry and if you know what you're looking for - and often is. > > Some labels have the word Trocken (Dry). My advice is look for a > > 'Kabinett' wine which is strictly speaking a non-recognized older > > description used before the 1964 wine law but it's traditional and > > everyone knows what it means. Remember too there is a difference > > between a QbA wine and a QmP; the latter being from a more specific > > area or vineyard - (not that it always means much since > > half a dozen growers can work in one vineyard. Some of the > > Piesporter vineyards are good examples; so to is Wehler Sonnenuhr). > > Qualitätswein mit Prädikat can have 5 additional grades of which the > > most common is Spätlese (late harvest). We are typical here in > > Baden-Württemberg in that the harvest usually begins aroound > > early/mid-October. Most of the QbA and QmP wines will be pressed > > from this main gathering. Grapes still left on the vine - (given > > enough sunshine) - begin to age and gradually shrivel in size which > > means the sugar content gets more concentrated - hence the increasing > > sweetness of Spätlese and Auslese. If he is lucky the vintner will be > > able to make Beerenauslese (grapes still on the vine which are > > beginning to rot) or Trockenbeerenaulese when the remaining grapes > > are smaller still and resemble sultanas. If any are selected and > > picked with frost still on them you have Eiswein. These later > > gradings produce true dessert wines. > > > > So the Riesling can and does product a variety of wines and a good > > one has > > that lovely delicate balance between fruitiness and crispness. It's > > a > > balance between acidity and sweetness. > > > > Unfortunately most wine in the UK is sold in supermarkets and > > although it is possible to find reasonable and good value wines don't > > forget the > > supermarkets have helped to ruin the availability of good wines. > > Supermarkets need (1) huge quantities of wine (2) at a minimum price > > for > > maximum profit and (3) it must be consistent in taste ie. one batch > > must > > taste much like another. Result is blending and since adding sugar > > is > > illegal producers use grape juice or Sussreserve. As this alters > > the > > flavour markedly (and does not have to even come from the same > > vineyard or > > village) it is possible to achieve the same kind of bland uniform > > taste. > > It's not helped by the supermarket and high street drinks shops > > using > > generic names like Mosel Blümchen, Niersteiner Gutes Domtal, Black > > Label > > and, of course, Liebfraumilch (which by the way means nothing to a > > German. > > There is a Liebfraumilch vineyard (in Worms) but it is illegal to use > > the > > name in the way that British and Americans do. > > > > Last thought - because Riesling grapes have a relatively small yield > > various let us remember hybrids have been produced using the Riesling > > as a starting point. So we have Müller-Thurgau (cross between > > Riesling and Silvaner) which ripens earlier and has a greater yield. > > Can be quite pleasant but my tip for a different German experience is > > try Kerner. We've drunk many a bottle of it and it tends to have a > > fairly consistent dry taste. One final tip - don't make the mistake > > most British and Americans make of thinking you MUST always have wine > > with food. German people often drink wine by itself - (we usually do > > and I'm English!) What better than a little cheese and a good QmP > > Riesling on a warm summer evening together with friends? David > > Williams. > > > > > > This message was created using the Web-based forum : > > www.wein-plus.com/forum/ > > More infos: www.wein-plus.com Unsubscribe: www.wein-plus.com/abmelden.htm |
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