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German| Date: 2005-04-04 10:21:33 |
| From: Antti Rinta-Huumo |
Subject: Re: Red wine from germany (was: Hi, Fellow |
| Hello everybody, And greetings from Finland !! I am a big fan of German Dry Rieslings but also would like to inform that there are suberb reds made in Germany. Try to find Weingut Koehler-Rubrecht's (Owner Bernd Philippi) "Philippi Spätburgunder" or Weingut Breuer's Spätburgunder. Antti ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Bibby" <ray@grbwinecellar.com> To: <wineforum@wein-plus.com>; <wineforum@wein-plus.de> Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 6:42 PM Subject: [wineforum] Red wine from germany (was: Hi, Fellow wine lovers. I've > Hi, > > I have been reading this forum passively from Canada and have a question for > Raymond. Have you ever tried a Red wine from Germany, I ask this because of > the comments made below about German Reds from Baden Wurttemberg. I import > wine into Canada and one of the best German Wines I have ever tried is from > the town of Waldulm. The co-op there (Waldulmer) make a very nice > Spatburgunder Spatlese. When I market it in Canada I tell people it is a > red wine for white wine drinkers. > > Ray > > -----Original Message----- > From: wineforum_owner@apris.de [mailto:wineforum_owner@apris.de] On Behalf > Of boscastle@t-online.de > Sent: April 1, 2005 11:41 AM > To: wineforum@wein-plus.de > Subject: [wineforum] Hi, Fellow wine lovers. I've a... > > > Well Raymond, you seem to have lots of opinions to consider! For what > it's worth I agree the lieblich style will never disappear > > Perhaps you should remember one or two basic facts about the Riesling > grape which others haven't touched on yet. First of all you have to > remember that this is probably the most difficult country as far as > latitude and weather is concerned to produce wine. (Hence although > 10% of wine production is red (and most of it here in Baden and > Württemberg) little of it is very good which is why there is hardly > any exported). The Riesling is a hardy vine well suited to this > climate - in fact when grown elsewhere it is either another grape > (like the Californian so-called Riesling or Italian Riesling which is > Wechselriesling) or it doesn't produce wines with the delicacy and > subtleness of taste like a good German Riesling. Riesling can be > crisp and dry and if you know what you're looking for - and often is. > Some labels have the word Trocken (Dry). My advice is look for a > 'Kabinett' wine which is strictly speaking a non-recognized older > description used before the 1964 wine law but it's traditional and > everyone knows what it means. Remember too there is a difference > between a QbA wine and a QmP; the latter being from a more specific > area or vineyard - (not that it always means much since > half a dozen growers can work in one vineyard. Some of the > Piesporter vineyards are good examples; so to is Wehler Sonnenuhr). > Qualitätswein mit Prädikat can have 5 additional grades of which the > most common is Spätlese (late harvest). We are typical here in > Baden-Württemberg in that the harvest usually begins aroound > early/mid-October. Most of the QbA and QmP wines will be pressed > from this main gathering. Grapes still left on the vine - (given > enough sunshine) - begin to age and gradually shrivel in size which > means the sugar content gets more concentrated - hence the increasing > sweetness of Spätlese and Auslese. If he is lucky the vintner will be > able to make Beerenauslese (grapes still on the vine which are > beginning to rot) or Trockenbeerenaulese when the remaining grapes > are smaller still and resemble sultanas. If any are selected and > picked with frost still on them you have Eiswein. These later > gradings produce true dessert wines. > > So the Riesling can and does product a variety of wines and a good > one has > that lovely delicate balance between fruitiness and crispness. It's > a > balance between acidity and sweetness. > > Unfortunately most wine in the UK is sold in supermarkets and > although it is possible to find reasonable and good value wines don't > forget the > supermarkets have helped to ruin the availability of good wines. > Supermarkets need (1) huge quantities of wine (2) at a minimum price > for > maximum profit and (3) it must be consistent in taste ie. one batch > must > taste much like another. Result is blending and since adding sugar > is > illegal producers use grape juice or Sussreserve. As this alters > the > flavour markedly (and does not have to even come from the same > vineyard or > village) it is possible to achieve the same kind of bland uniform > taste. > It's not helped by the supermarket and high street drinks shops > using > generic names like Mosel Blümchen, Niersteiner Gutes Domtal, Black > Label > and, of course, Liebfraumilch (which by the way means nothing to a > German. > There is a Liebfraumilch vineyard (in Worms) but it is illegal to use > the > name in the way that British and Americans do. > > Last thought - because Riesling grapes have a relatively small yield > various let us remember hybrids have been produced using the Riesling > as a starting point. So we have Müller-Thurgau (cross between > Riesling and Silvaner) which ripens earlier and has a greater yield. > Can be quite pleasant but my tip for a different German experience is > try Kerner. We've drunk many a bottle of it and it tends to have a > fairly consistent dry taste. One final tip - don't make the mistake > most British and Americans make of thinking you MUST always have wine > with food. German people often drink wine by itself - (we usually do > and I'm English!) What better than a little cheese and a good QmP > Riesling on a warm summer evening together with friends? David > Williams. > > > This message was created using the Web-based forum : > www.wein-plus.com/forum/ > > More infos: www.wein-plus.com Unsubscribe: www.wein-plus.com/abmelden.htm |
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